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Exemplary Battles in the Age of Darkness: Volume Mars
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Ferrus vs Vulkan - A Masterclass In Bad Balance And Rules Writing
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Rambling Ranting With Randy
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16k Game and Heresy 2.0 Recap
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Sanguinary Guard Filling the Niche of WS5 Combat Units for Blood Angels?
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Why no Walkback?
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My Anti-Hype
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Daemon Engines in 30k Part 1: Getting Started In Horus Heresy
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My November 2022 Predictions in Hindsight
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3AM Previews That Actually Exceeded Expectations
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A Monday Ramble
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A Monday Ramble
....and Another Thing About Socio Political Views....
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....and Another Thing About Socio Political Views....
Keep Politics Out Of The Hobby
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Keep Politics Out Of The Hobby
With Just Two Stats You Can Rate A Unit - Let's Work Through Some Changes
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With Just Two Stats You Can Rate A Unit - Let's Work Through Some Changes
2024 GW Price Hikes: Higher Than Wage Growth, Again
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2024 GW Price Hikes: Higher Than Wage Growth, Again
"Games Workshop Write Narrative Rules"
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"Games Workshop Write Narrative Rules"
Nobody Likes The Rules, So Why Won't They Fix Them?
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Nobody Likes The Rules, So Why Won't They Fix Them?
You Know The Topic, Macca Returns
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You Know The Topic, Macca Returns
Female Custodes: The end of Game Workshop?...
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Female Custodes: The end of Game Workshop?...
Macca is GONE!...
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Macca is GONE!...
Rumourmongering
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Rumourmongering
Games Workshop Culled Age of Sigmar.... I Kinda Agree With Them
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Games Workshop Culled Age of Sigmar.... I Kinda Agree With Them
Creating a Unit Calculator
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Creating a Unit Calculator
Games Workshop is Failing at Basic Balance
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Games Workshop is Failing at Basic Balance
Vheren Ashur- Aximand, Horus Aximand
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Vheren Ashur- Aximand, Horus Aximand
Addendum: Solar Auxilia List Building Considerations - Getting Started in Horus Heresy
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Addendum: Solar Auxilia List Building Considerations - Getting Started in Horus Heresy
Solar Auxilia List Building Considerations - Getting Started in Horus Heresy
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Solar Auxilia List Building Considerations - Getting Started in Horus Heresy
April Merchandising
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April Merchandising
The Plastic Legion Command Squad
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The Plastic Legion Command Squad

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @phantomjoker5
    @phantomjoker5 8 годин тому

    so true

  • @yayo3879
    @yayo3879 21 годину тому

    Heresy totally lost my interest. I'm back to playing 40k 2nd Edition...

  • @calebbarnhouse496
    @calebbarnhouse496 22 години тому

    Normally i agree with 95 percent of what your saying, and I'll probably agree with 95 percent of this one to, but your opinion on helldivers difficulty is omega bad, first of all, only like 1 weapon is worse then it was on release, with every single enemy unit used to be a lot stronger because no armor was able to provide any amount of protection, combined with massive nerfs to damage from some enemy's the reason rocket devistators were so feared is because each rocket was able to oneshot you in heavy explosive reistance armor, the only effect that could save you was 50/50 not dying armor, at launch this game was so much harder it's not even funny, and this goes for both bots and bugs, bugs have recived less nerfs as they were always easier, but they are certainly still easier now then launch, largely just because shriekers are hunters if they didn't have to land

  • @manofthewest5395
    @manofthewest5395 День тому

    Justice for the Atramentar.

  • @user-yg6om8uj4f
    @user-yg6om8uj4f День тому

    Great video. I honestly hope that GW forgets about Heresy and leaves it alone; I'd much rather have to use bit-websites and other websites to make miniatures that they don't make anymore. It sucks that, a couple of months prior to 2.0 (and before that) they slowly started to remove kits that could be used, like the mkiii ten man tactical squad, old contemptor dready, etc. All of this was done for money, and the writing also reflects this, so there's really no point in buying their miniatures. Maybe one day the passion from 1.0 could come back...

  • @walt_man
    @walt_man День тому

    Nothing worse than a narcissistic rules team... yikes. Not good for player-designer relations.

  • @angelofmalice0
    @angelofmalice0 День тому

    The loss of Allan Blyth was far more damaging to games workshop than anyone could have imagined.

  • @JezOnYT88
    @JezOnYT88 День тому

    So ahhh i want to play IF only because i played Crimson Fists in 40K and I've had Alexis Polex on my shelf for nearly 5yrs. I am not a fedora wearer

  • @dimitrishen3985
    @dimitrishen3985 День тому

    The efforts GW put into AoS in order to salvage it from its launch disaster has taken its toll one must say. All the creative sculptors and rules writers basically go to buff AoS up leaving others even 40K in poor maintanance. GW is just pretending everything is fine they really need to pull some resources into other gamings systems aside from AoS. (I'm pretty sure there is only one or less than one moderator in charge of HH rules and that guy may also have to support boxed games like epic or necromunda

  •  2 дні тому

    Helldivers was always trash

  • @DBWave94
    @DBWave94 2 дні тому

    People say Space Marine 2 will bring new blood into the hobby. I beg to differ. When they pull up to their local GW or hobby shop and see that the price of a few minis is equal to the game they just bought they're going to turn right around and leave. And that's not considering all the paint and tools you need to get up and running. I know. It happened to me. GW sucks at making first impressions. Always have.

  • @someguy4405
    @someguy4405 2 дні тому

    Some people are proud of being long-time customers. Personally I'm proud of not having bought a GW product in several years.

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow 2 дні тому

    Helldivers 2 player base is down 97% due to their screw ups

  • @andrewmarrington5654
    @andrewmarrington5654 2 дні тому

    The size of the 40K errata and FAQ vs the size of actual core rules section of 40K is a crazy ratio.

  • @socialanimalmedia
    @socialanimalmedia 2 дні тому

    I think Contekar really exemplified this idea for me. Everyone wanted Atramentar, it was obvious. Instead we got a unit that nobody asked for with crappy rules that seem almost designed to piss people off.

  • @reidzalewski4563
    @reidzalewski4563 2 дні тому

    Fun police here, we’re going to need you to make a video about the few things you like about AoS’s world. In order to balance out the salt intake you see, completely procedural. On a serious note though that could be an interesting, if brief video.

  • @fullspeedpagan
    @fullspeedpagan 2 дні тому

    Remember when Bungie would release a Halo game and it would be near perfect and remain so

  • @Perkustin
    @Perkustin 2 дні тому

    Often in popular 'longtail'/Live Service computer games i find the developers have more success bringing weak things up than smacking the strong things down. I think this is what Heresy Needs, Stop releasing crap units with page long special rules that do nothing! Invictus Suzerain wouldn't even need a points increase if other Legions had anything close to as good (and cheap).

  • @vostroyanfirstborn9834
    @vostroyanfirstborn9834 2 дні тому

    NGL I'm disappointed this isn't a video ripping the piss out of the new Coteaz model.

  • @MrSmitejr
    @MrSmitejr 2 дні тому

    Algorithm brought this back I guess "I'm not going to include old WHFB stuff (for Cities), that's lazy" "Maybe it needs some of the old WHFB stuff" Really makes me think.

  • @SuperDuperHappyTime
    @SuperDuperHappyTime 2 дні тому

    FYI: AoS and 30k have similar number of Facebook users (100k to 115k), but Reddit users is 222k to 86k in favor of AoS (40K sits at 902k redditards, Warhammer Fantasy at 98k, and The Old World 8k)

  • @RazielLordOfSecrets
    @RazielLordOfSecrets 2 дні тому

    Did Gw mess up 40k core rules or putting minimal effort in HH? Both, both is good. GW just doesn't care about rules in general. The fact they don't consider Mantic, warlord, etc competition is starting to bite them in the ass.

  • @rryannn1
    @rryannn1 2 дні тому

    The solution is obviously more Sons of Horus characters.

    • @BittermanAndy
      @BittermanAndy 12 годин тому

      @@rryannn1 not just Sons of Horus! Imperial Fists too.

  • @USALibertarian
    @USALibertarian 2 дні тому

    Same problem as with most products: the people who make it never actually use it.

  • @profsrlojohn635
    @profsrlojohn635 2 дні тому

    In terms of if they’ve stuffed the 40k rules or not, or rhe HH isn’t putting effort, it’s both. What you’re seeing is what people are calling 10.5th edition, as they did a complete rules overhaul to address many of the core-rules based pain points. People are still judging them, but it’s a definitive improvement. The FAQ before was around 15~ pages, but it had less illustrations as it didn’t need them. Does it fix 10th edition? No, but that’s because the issues i find in 10th are a much wider problem that isn’t really fixable without rebooting the game, *again*.

  • @egnaroelprup
    @egnaroelprup 2 дні тому

    What's really funny to me is it seems 40k has ground to a halt as well. There's been a slew of models that scream deadlines and burnout. Codexes are mediocre or downright terrible. Constant releases has ruined creativity. The rules are seeing worthwhile updates and fix attempts, but i think that has more to do with the US division pushing competitive events and being actually present to see "playtest" data. Heresy definitely seems like an inherited passion project that nobody there has as much drive for. They keep chugging along with it, but they simply don't have the resources and people to make up for the lack of passion.

  • @john12644
    @john12644 2 дні тому

    I think the big core rules faq for 40k with the pictures is because they intoduced a new mechanic and had to show how it worked. I think its called pivot or something like that.

  • @izaakkemp8938
    @izaakkemp8938 2 дні тому

    Playtesting?! Didn't they guy who made the hours heresy box game admit he only had a weekend to playtest?

  • @XX-jn8co
    @XX-jn8co 2 дні тому

    The money element is why I want this potential edition upgrade to be available as a free PDF; practically every book needs fixing but those books are expensive. By all means release them in physical form with 'new edition' on the front but they should also be free PDFs for those that spent over a hundred quid on broken books.

  • @BittermanAndy
    @BittermanAndy 2 дні тому

    I flatly refuse to believe that HH 2.0 was playtested at all. I don't mean that they ignored the external playtesters' feedback, or that they playtested it themselves but in some weird environment that no other players use - there is just no evidence at all that anybody played the game before releasing it, and plenty of evidence that they can't have done.

    • @MrConna6
      @MrConna6 2 дні тому

      Pretty sure people have discussed their experiences play testing hh2 and being ignored by gw

  • @jakub_paints6775
    @jakub_paints6775 2 дні тому

    If only that was the only problem GW has. With the exception of beautiful AoS minis, they are fumbling every other IP they have it seems.

  • @Rsma77
    @Rsma77 2 дні тому

    My kingdom for them to unfuck Helldivers.

  • @Traven158
    @Traven158 2 дні тому

    Agreed on the awful world of Age of Wokemar; everyone in my gaming group ditched 40k (after, what, 2 years?) for the new edition of AoS, and I'm sitting here, already bogged down with Heresy and 40k Guard/Traitor Guard, struggling to find anything to get into lorewise for AoS. ("Age of Wokemar" may be a bit much. The thing's, like, at most 20% w0k3)

    • @redmarson261
      @redmarson261 2 дні тому

      I get that comment about them. It is a bit painful to see how they force diversity into AoS until its breaking at the seams. Giving them some credit, they're trying to appeal to the young, which is probably a mix between alpha based skibidi edge lords and crying trans femboys, both terminally online. It's a hard line. I like AoS for the models, play style might be cool too. They still have all male factions (Skaven, Orcs, Ogres, massive W for the guys). They also have generally cool models so I'm into it. 40K feels like its getting stale, new releases have been pretty g4y.

    • @johnroberts8793
      @johnroberts8793 2 дні тому

      I kind of enjoy the floaty dwarves...

    • @rutgaurxi7314
      @rutgaurxi7314 2 дні тому

      @@redmarson261 The Undead are the only decent faction (Nagash as a model, still looks gay fuck though!) though there are nice models throughout almost _all_ the ranges.

  • @brassviking486
    @brassviking486 2 дні тому

    I think you hit the nail on the head with popularity. 40k is the cash cow, AoS is what they want to push for heritage and they're trying to crack it so it gets popular and HH is left on stair for scraps of attention and tweaks rather than the balance overhaul the players want.

  • @khamul64
    @khamul64 2 дні тому

    Well I agree. The first time I saw Wolves rules in book7 I was like "how the hell am I to create a list out of this?" Took me a lot of reading to understand those rules. They were pretty counter intuitive at times.

    • @henrythe9th377
      @henrythe9th377 2 дні тому

      Try dark angels in book 9..

    • @khamul64
      @khamul64 2 дні тому

      @@henrythe9th377 No thanks XD If Wolves were confusing to a Wolf player I could not even start to imagine how confusing DA rules would be.

  • @JD-mf9zm
    @JD-mf9zm 2 дні тому

    Possibly one of the interns is related to a major investor, we will give them 30k, those guys will buy anyway and we dont want them touching 40k or AoS

  • @khamul64
    @khamul64 2 дні тому

    Helldivers 2 needs to get it shit together I couldnt agree more.

  • @michaeldorn5330
    @michaeldorn5330 2 дні тому

    Macca is back

  • @bruvaasmodai5250
    @bruvaasmodai5250 2 дні тому

    Knew where the Helldivers analogy was going. It's so frustrating to me how obvious it is that the people in charge of this game simply don't play it. It would be so simple for them to bring the community in to fix the game so quickly, but they're so stupid they don't see jt

    • @khamul64
      @khamul64 2 дні тому

      The fact they released Commando with ability to blow up fabricators from aby angle and AH is like "oh no that's not working as intended" and here I am asking "why the f you didnt check that before release?"

    • @DigitalGame18
      @DigitalGame18 2 дні тому

      Given how toxic the community mods have been I'm not surprised there's such a strong barrier between the players and the studio, on top of the many other issues with the game itself. Same kinds of things are looking to happen in Trench Crusade and I am worried this game is gonna tank before it even finishes.

    • @khamul64
      @khamul64 2 дні тому

      @@DigitalGame18 Well its not like Space Marine 2 is on the horizon and looks great so far. With you know. A campaign you can play AND finish XD

    • @bruvaasmodai5250
      @bruvaasmodai5250 2 дні тому

      I have a *particular* gripe with the Mechanicum rules, as they are very clearly written by people who either don't play Mech, or didn't play it in 2.0 before they were released

    • @khamul64
      @khamul64 2 дні тому

      @@bruvaasmodai5250 like. I bought Mechanicum book and wanted to make a fun, functional "robot" army. After some time I did it. By making CIS army for Star Wars Legion. I think Mechanicum is fundamentaly broken in terms of rules, equipment, interactions etc etc.

  • @crayven
    @crayven 2 дні тому

    A company who showed how to implement player feedback and watch the playerbase is Niohs creator Team Ninja. I took part in the alpha of the first Nioh game and after finishing the demo they provided a really long survey. This was really awesome to see even if I was sceptical, as it was not the first time I saw a survey ignored afterwards (looking at you APB online....) Long story short, they took the surveys, hours of gameplay behavior from Alpha users and tweaked the game in the direction they felt the players would enjoy amd they did. If someone is interestet they also have a GDC talk were they talked about it how they applied common game mechanics and changed them to make them more enjoyable to players. Its called "Nioh: Talking with Samurai" I think, go check it out. This is a talk and method every game designer should at least keep in mind no matter what type of game you are doing. In the end the product is for the player and they need to like it to make it successfull in the long term.

  • @johnjones2375
    @johnjones2375 2 дні тому

    I just sit here sometimes completely perplexed at how GW are releasing models that look nothing like how they’re supposed to, multiple HH characters look nothing like their artistic depictions, with the amount of official inspiration to draw from why isn’t it happening. It’s like there’s a complete disconnect, it’s like the people making the models aren’t reading the books to get a feel of the character to create a pose that suits and the art to match how they’re supposed to look.

    • @EditingComby
      @EditingComby 2 дні тому

      It sounds like you hit the nail on the head. I don't think the design team does read the book or get the feel of the characters - they probably get a brief and unless its something they want to work on (which seems to largely be age of sigmar because there's almost no restrictions there and you can make stuff that looks cool instead of adhering to restrictions) then they just do the minimum needed. In a way, I suppose it's a bit like the creative energy of a lot of franchises that make a lot of money. At some point, if it's not shepherded by people with creative vision and an idea for what it should be and where it should go, the passion to create runs out as its taken over by micromanaging money-men who just try to squeeze out every last cent before its eventual downfall. At this point, 40K design looks a lot like 'hey, what do some people say they want? let's do that just to get it over with'.

    • @lostalone9320
      @lostalone9320 2 дні тому

      A huge problem is that the leadership doesn't really know how to be creative anymore; they don't know how to take creative risks and try out ideas without betting the absolute farm on them. Primaris is the perfect example of that. If they were smart people, I would have started off by saying that the new refreshed tactical squad will all be Mk 8 errant armour, because the martians have finally got it into production. After all, we heard about Mk 8 around the time 3rd edition came out. So sure, that's fine. And yes, you can even scale up the new tactical squad if you really want to, because it's a new mark of armour and you can open say "Yeah, we want to make everyone a bit bigger so that guardsmen etc are easier to paint". That's fine. You don't need to change the fluff. Maybe people just hate the design, but I think most people would be ok with it. You do a little fudging so people can still swap weapons and accessories around. And then people either buy them or not, but if people don't buy them, you say ok that can kinda go on the back burner and we make more mk 7 dudes again, but maybe we'll do a scaled up mk 7 kit, and use the opportunity to make some new, fresh additions for them. Then when you do the Impulsor, you start out making it a specific unit for Salamanders (high tech!) or White Scars (zoooom), and you obviously design it so it looks actually cool and not just "rhino that flies", but you keep the compatibility to with predator turrets and so on. Then you let people play with them and see what they do. Do they like it? Is the model nice? Are people excited to convert new predators using the new hull? You don't force it out there, you people get used to it, and then you think what to do next. Again, you don't need to do any big changes to the fluff here. These are just cool elements that fit in, and maybe they'll be forgotten but maybe people will really like them. But instead GW plan everything out years ahead, and just plough on forward without really feeling out the space.

  • @sagacity1071
    @sagacity1071 2 дні тому

    The dark lord returns.

  • @WTFoolproof
    @WTFoolproof 2 дні тому

    as a dyslexic I find myself asking this question so often. I think the AlGorerwhythem must have piped this to me because it hears me sayin it all of the time. so this is awkward...how you doing man?

  • @Jerry2die4
    @Jerry2die4 2 дні тому

    Bump

  • @TheHAZMAT221
    @TheHAZMAT221 2 дні тому

    Babe, wake up, Outer circle just uploaded….

  • @szasstam5131
    @szasstam5131 2 дні тому

    Hiii I’m the first comment!!!

  • @markedwards2954
    @markedwards2954 2 дні тому

    Idk about the chain glaives but the dg power scythe fit perfectly with the curent mark 3 armor. if you add the additional mk3 gauntlet parts it’s almost seamless

  • @lordmalal
    @lordmalal 3 дні тому

    I like four turns. Games finish so quickly, its great.